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Unlocking Success: Innovation, Global Leadership & The French Entrepreneur

with

Pascal Gauthier, Maurice Lévy & Sebastien Badault
Ledger CEO & Publicis Groupe Executive Chairman of the Supervisory Board

Apr 09, 2025

On this special episode of The Ledger Podcast, Pascal Gauthier, CEO of Ledger, joins Maurice Lévy, Executive Chairman of the Supervisory Board at Publicis Groupe, for an insightful discussion on the essence of innovation, the intricacies of global leadership, and the unique challenges and strengths of French entrepreneurs. 

“When we are capable of doing things, well, we must do them, because if we don’t, no one else will do them for us”. – Pascal Gauthier

Key Highlights:

The Unyielding Drive of Visionary Leaders

The discussion opens with both leaders reflecting on their core motivations and philosophies. Maurice Lévy articulates his drive as “the desire to do things and above all the taste for self-transcendence. 

He views challenges as his daily nourishment, without which he would wither and get bored.

For Pascal, this responsibility extends beyond personal ambition, encompassing family, friends, nation, and Europe. 

“Yeah, we’re going to work hard, but we’re also going to have a really good time”. – Pascal Gauthier

The French Entrepreneur: Ingenuity Born from Constraint

The conversation turns to the unique specificities and challenges faced by French entrepreneurs. 

Maurice Lévy explains that France, being a small country in global market share (e.g., less than 2% of the global advertising market), often compels its entrepreneurs to be more imaginative, more cunning, more creative, more inventive, and finding solutions with fewer means than the American entrepreneur. 

“Constraint obliges creativity” – Maurice Levy

The core idea is that much like a painter’s limitations can foster innovation, this resourcefulness in navigating French and European complexities leads to greater ambition and success.

Cultivating Global Ambition from the Outset

“In technology, you enter a game that is [either] global or it’s not” – Pascal Gauthier

Local players often have a short lifespan unless acquired by global entities. Pascal’s ambition was always to build world-class, global leaders. 

“The market is global from the outset, and what we need are entrepreneurs like him [Pascal] who think globally from the outset”. Maurice Lévy 

Navigating the Geopolitical Realities of a Shifting World

Maurice Lévy provides a sharp analysis of the current geopolitical climate, particularly the impact of Donald Trump’s “America first and America only” approach. He describes Trump’s diplomacy as one which re-evaluates global relationships across peace, immigration, and crucially, economics, pushing back against perceived unfair advantages taken by other nations. 

Ledger’s Resilient and Agile Approach

To navigate the volatile crypto market, Ledger has built a highly resilient and agile business model. According to its CEO Pascal Gauthier, this involves proactively operating ahead of regulation and strategically shifting focus between regions, such as from the U.S. to growth markets in Asia and the Middle East, and now planning a return to follow market activity.

He notes that this “consumer-first” approach has made Ledger one of the few European B2C companies to achieve global market leadership.

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Key Takeaways & Advice for Global Leaders

While Maurice Lévy, impressed by Pascal’s track record, refrains from offering specific advice, Pascal Gauthier shares his insights on cultivating global leadership:

  • Global Mindset: It begins with thinking globally from the very start of your day. Pascal humorously compares it to Elon Musk thinking about Mars while shaving, applying the same intense focus to creating global tech leaders.
  • Curiosity and Connection: Being curious about other people and other cultures and striving to make sure that you have one friend in each country. This involves participating in local cultures, enjoying diverse foods and drinks, and building genuine relationships.
  • Networking is Key: Emphasizing the three rules of business: network, network, network, Pascal highlights the crucial role of building a strong global network. He acknowledges Maurice Lévy as the master of networking.

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